Really AWESOME interview on Matter of Life and Debt Eli!! If we can keep drawing out the predatory structures of debt, like the SLABS more people will see how exploitative these loans truly are. Maurizio Lazzarato writes extensively on the neoliberalization of US higher ed and the manipulation of subjectivity by the creditor/debtor relationship. To consider that 33% of the Governments held assets are student loans is a reality that must be navigated as we seek to eliminate all future debts. I'm wondering how much of the Govt's assets are transferred to private interests every year? They are basically holding our futures hostage to finance private profits! Anyways, thanks for everything and glad to be on Strike with you 🙂 With care, Tiffany (Bay Area Debtors Union)